Posts Tagged ‘Garden gate’

My next job is to convert this old damaged Triumph conical hub into a Manx style single leading shoe race style hub, and although it won’t be correct in every detail, it will be close enough to give the look I am after.

Conical Hub

Conical Hub

First job is to remove all the fins from the outer edge, luckily this one was already damaged in this area, this may have helped in me getting it cheaply off of eBay, Then it will be away to be powder coated black, before I start to convert a Norton brake plate to fit.

My hub now stripped of the vanes, was today tidied up on a lathe ready for the next part of the operation, this is to have made and installed a set of cooling
fins just like you would have on a manx or inter, but it is not as easy as that, as you will see.
The first problem that you have to overcome, is leaving room to insert the spokes, and to make it look somewhere near “right” you will need at least two fins, but you only have 16mm to play with on the hub. So let’s see what I am talking about…

Well first we need to go and find some bikes, that have the correct hubs fitted, now that may be a little tricky in your neck of the woods, but for me, I just pop up the road….

Garden Gate Inter

Garden Gate Inter

International

International

So here is am International hub, as fitted to the Garden gate Inter above… Three fins, tapered hub, and crossover spoke pattern, I can’t afford one of these, even in the rare chance of one ever coming up for sale.

Inter Hub

Inter Hub

And here is the Inter brake plate, single leading shoe, small air scoop, just the look I am after, but I will have to make my own, out of a standard Norton SLS brake plate.

SLS Brake Plate

SLS Brake Plate

More Later…

I picked up a couple of bits for the Norton on Saturday at the Kempton bike jumble, one of the parts was the front fork brace and mudguard support, I found
it in a box of old junk, and it cost me just £2.00 or $3.00 for the colonials out there.

So today I thought I should just check to see how it all fits together, this is not the wheel I will be using, as that is yet to be built, but it is a 21″ wheel so is right for testing.

 

Dry Fit

Dry Fit

 

New Handle bars

New Handle bars

 

My next job is to convert this old damaged Triumph conical hub into a Manx style single leading shoe race hub, and although it won’t be correct in every detail,
it will be close enough to give the look I am after.

 

Conical Hub

Conical Hub

 

 

First job is to remove all the fins from the outer edge, luckily this one was already damaged in this area, this may have helped in me getting it cheaply off of the Bay..

 

Broken Fin, A good thing.

Broken Fin, A good thing.

Then it will be away to be powder coated black, before I start to convert a Norton brake plate to fit…

 

 

I found this picture out there in web land, while searching ideas for my Norton Clubman project build, there are so many parts of this bike I like, and would like to copy on my build. The flanged alloy rims, and stainless spokes are already in the mix, I need to sort the little polished scoop for the front brake, and I like the double hoop rear mudguard stay too.

Norton Garden Gate

Norton Garden Gate

I should be picking up the rear wheel this coming weekend, so as soon as I throw a tyre on the rim I shall have a go at getting the rear guard fitted up, then it is decision time, on whether to get the alloy guards polished or painted black?

Picture was found here… http://www.themotart-journal.com/

Today was a good day, today was the first “build” day,  I now have a few parts, and today they started going together

I had the rear plunger rods machined, and so today I took the frame, plunger rods, springs, and covers, over to Mick’s place to get some help fitting them on the frame, Mick has a homemade spring compressor just for doing the plungers, a job that would be tough to do without the use of a spring compession tool.

Norton Plunger Suspension

 

Garden Gate Suspension

 

And when I got back home I fitted the headstock assembly with the new bearings that turned up this week. I also have the parts needed to put the Roadholder forks together, so things are moving in the right direction.

There was a nice Velocette there while I was getting the rear suspension fitted, and a Norton on the bench too.

 

Velocette 500

 

Norton Single

 

 

 

More of my Norton..

Posted: February 19, 2012 in Just Me
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I spent a little time tarting up the frame, well I had to do something about all that red primer that had been daubed  about with what can best be described as a relish!  but a morning of spray on oven cleaner,  warm soapy water, and 400 grade wet and dry, soon had the frame ready for some paint.

And this is the result…

Paint and Polish

well that was yesterday, and my kitchen still smells of paint this morning!  so as I was going to get some pictures, I thought I should see how the new oil tank will look when repaired, painted, and fitted, sometime in the near future.

Oil Tank

I also have to find out how these tanks are hung on the frame, which probably means going to look at old Norton’s, oh well, someone has to do it

Where I am right now….
So having finished fixing up my Kawasaki Z1b, I have decided I need another project, I like to have a project, I find it a great way to relax after being at work all day, and I like searching out hard to find stuff, all my friends will tell you this….


Where I was back then….
For a couple of years now, I have wanted to build an old race style britbike, I mentioned this to Wade ( http://wadeschields.tumblr.com ) when he was over one time for the IoM BSA International, when we went to the Brooklands Museum. But those pre war singles cost big money, and may not be that practical for general use. But I was sure there was something out there that could look just right, and still be used in general for running around, and touring. So I thought long and hard on the matter, I studied all my pictures, and checked out bikes at shows, and I came to the conclusion, that what I wanted was a Norton “garden gate” plunger frame Manx or International 500 ! well wouldn’t we all! I am sure you know what I mean, plunger frame, big tank, roadholder forks, black and silver paint, fishtail exhaust, perfect. something like this one would do…

Norton Inter

But damn! these things are expensive, the one pictured below went for over £7000 on ebay just recently, and as you can see, needed a little work..

Norton Inter project

So where did that leave me then?

Well I knew I couldn’t afford a complete bike, so I started looking for a frame, but even these don’t come up very often, and I looked for around two years on and off, infact I had all but given up on the idea, when up came a frame at the right price. so I bought it.

Below is a picture of my 1951 Norton ES2 “Garden Gate” plunger frame, as I got it home..

51 Norton "Garden Gate"

More later..