Posts Tagged ‘Manx’

I found these pictures on the internet the other day, whilst looking for information on Manx Nortons, the bike is apparently a 1951 Manx garden gate, with a fitted Harley Knucklehead motor, that is all I know. I could not find any other info on this bike. Who built it, where it was built, where it is now? all just a mystery at the moment.

But it sure does have that cool factor.

I wonder if anyone reading this will be able to fill in some of the spaces with regards this bike… Well, someone did and has replied, please read Fred’s reply below, it is great to have some of the back story. Thanks Fred.

Norton Harley Special

Norton Harley Special

Knucklehead

Knucklehead

A Tight Fit

A Tight Fit

 

Doug Kephart says:

As mentioned, the bike was built by a friend of my father, Bill Selby. However it was built 1964-65, probably using resources of Piasecki Aircraft (not to be confused with Piasecki Helicopter, that became Boeing-Vertol) where he was working in the toolroom at the time. Locally it was known as the “Norley”. He then sold it to Caleb Cressman of Ward, PA., though I think it was in the mid- or late seventies. One of the first things Caleb did was ‘blow up’ the engine, which probably was just a used engine Selby scrounged up for the project. Caleb got another engine, had it rebuilt, but no one cleaned out the oil tank from the first blowup. That trashed the second engine. I think it may be on its 4th knucklehead motor or rebuild! Caleb had no involvement with building or design, though certainly knew Selby.

The ‘story’ was it was one of the bikes brought over for the 1950 or ’51 Daytona. Recent checking shows it does have features of the machines built for Dayton to look like Norton International models (Internationals were eligible, Manxes were not), but using Manx hardware. Unfortunately the frame number had been ground away, so it is not possible to prove that. Caleb took the Norley with him to Nantucket where he moved to in the eighties. It was there that he had an accident with it. On encountering a bend in the road covered with gravel, he aimed for a gap in the hedge leading to a field straight on beyond. Unfortunately the gap was for a guy wire to a telephone pole. This caught the bike on the kickstarter and threw Caleb, knocking him unconscious. Fortunately the accident was witnessed and he got prompt help. The only damage to the Norley was to treat off the kickstarter and fracture to the end cover of the Sturmey-Archer dollshead gearbox. It got laid up for a awhile, moved back to Pennsylvania, then came to our place to have the gearbox repaired and the motor checked over as it had sat for a while. The gearbox end cover got replaced, and the peculiar tall 1st gear Dayton ratio replaced with a standard road going 1st gear set.

By the way, the wheel hubs are magnesium and the petrol and oil tank aluminum. I took some photos of it at that time, 1989, while it was apart and then assembled. Also some 8mm camcorder video of my brother and I riding it about. At that time, it looked just as you see it in the pictures above. After Selby sold the Norley, he started on another project, sticking a 1953 Panhead engine in a 1956 Norton wideline feather bead frame. No special race parts there, other than Grimica and Fotana hubs and a big Lyta alloy gas tank. That never got finished and Selby also sold that to Caleb, and then through another mutual friend I ended up with it. Naturally it was called the Norley Mk2, and the original became the Norley Mk1. Selby in quick succession also started installation of a late Indian Chief motor in a Norton slimline featherbed frame, and then the last a Sportster engine (not sure of year), the frames being 1965 and 1967. Caleb probably helped Selby find the parts, which may the source of the idea that he had a hand in designing/building the Norley. These would have been the Norley Mk3 and Mk4, but got even less further along than the Mk2. Just before Selby died, I bought those projects too for the Norton parts, as Selby had already sold the Indian and Sportster engines to raise money.

Fantastic, thanks Doug.

My Norton clubman project, I try to give it as much time as I can, but holding down a job, and sorting out my Guzzi Ambo, as well as keeping up with chores on the house and the BMW R80st, leaves me so little time, but I do my best. I guess with hindsight that I may have had a chance of getting it on the road this year, but I also really enjoy time out riding, so I am not too upset that it still needs so much work to get near the finish line.  But maybe it is not as much as it seems?

My next job is to convert this old damaged Triumph conical hub into a Manx style single leading shoe race hub, and although it won’t be correct in every detail, it will be close enough to give the look I am after.

Broken Fin, A good thing.

Broken Fin, A good thing.

I collected my rebuilt front wheel today, the hub is a little too glossy, but I hope it will dull down a little as it ages, it now also has a Norton brake plate that has been machined to fit, and some different bearings to match up the Triumph hub to the Norton spindle.

Conical Hub

Conical Hub

Rolling Chassis? Nearly

Rolling Chassis? Nearly

Front Wheel

Front Wheel

The brake plate still needs some work, it needs to be painted satin black, and an air scoop needs to be added, also the rim is not sitting centrally in the forks, so I shall have to get that adjusted, but these are small things, with some tubes and tyres I should have a rolling chassis by the end of the month. Well, if the ferrets play ball, that is!

A Little Norton Time…

Posted: August 17, 2013 in Just Me
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A day off! Hooray !

As I did indeed have a day to myself, I dedicated it to some Norton time, a project that has taken a backseat of late, due mainly to work, and sorting through the Guzzi problems.
So with a pocketful of ideas, I headed over to Norton central, to put some ideas into action. first on the list was to take some assorted jumble finds, and turn them into an International Clubman tacho assembly, well at least a copy of one.

Here is the real deal, in situ on a Norton inter clubman…

Norton Inter Dash

Norton Inter Dash

Now the real deals are hard to find, as you can probably imagine, but I picked up a Cafe Racer speedo holder from Kempton for £5-00, a while back, and a Smiths tacho a little later on, I then set to removing the center of the holder so the clock could fit in, I then made the rubber mounting rings. And finally put the whole lot together…

Tacho Mount

Tacho Mount

Tacho Mounting

Tacho Mounting

While I was there in the workshop I spotted a box with a nice little motor for sale, now I wonder if I need it?

Manx Engine

Manx Engine

yes it is a complete Norton Manx engine…

Manx

Manx

I have also been looking for a short Norton International Clubman rear brake pedal, they are a different shape to the Manx’s, or standard ES2 pedals, and are around 5″ shorter in length, I had mentioned this to Mick a while back, and he had found me a good well used one, from an old racing bike, so it comes with added patina.

Lastly I also picked up my 1948 competition engine today, and dropped that into the frame when I got home.

Clubman Project

Clubman Project

ES2 Clubman

ES2 Clubman

I will be stripping the frame down next though, as I have to get some mounts welded on to take the footpegs, I can then start building it up in earnest.

The Norton Project…

Posted: June 8, 2013 in Just Me
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So yesterday evening (Friday) I got a call from the machine shop telling me that my hub was ready to be collected, I had asked the guys in the shop to make me a set of cooling fins, along the lines of a Manx or Inter, I supplied the billet alloy, they supplied the skill.  And here is the result…

Front Hub Fins

Front Hub Fins

 

It can be off now to be enameled, and built on to a 21″ flanged alloy rim, I then need to set to building an Inter style Single leading shoe front brake plate…

 

Cooling Fins, Inter Syle

Cooling Fins, Inter Syle

 

I have thought for a while now, that I want my Norton to look a little different from the standard ES2 & Model 18 singles that are out and about, there are to be fair some very nice bikes out there, and you have seen a few I have posted in this thread. But I would like mine to stand apart, so with this in mind I decided a while back that I would finish my engine in black, like they do on some Manx engines, and some of the Vincent models. I am going to leave the alloy heads and rocker cover silver, as will be the push rod tubes.

Now I know some of the purists out there will tut tutting loudly into their earl grey, but this bike was never going to be factory finish, lets face it, all the parts are coming from either ebay, jumbles, or other peoples sheds.

 

Norton Clubman

Norton Clubman

 

Coming Together Slowly

Coming Together Slowly

 

More Norton’ing…

Posted: April 13, 2013 in Just Me
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Another big part of the puzzle fell into place today, in the shape of an ES2 500 iron barrel, it has had a repair or two in its life, as you would expect, it is also on the top end of the bore size at 82.3, but I am looking for a late 40’s AJS piston to fit in there, but if I fail in that direction I shall have a look at getting a liner fitted, and taking it back to standard (79mm) bore size.

Roll out the Barrel

Roll out the Barrel

500 Barrel

500 Barrel

I also started looking at how to fix my newly aquired Smiths tacho, which I want to fit in a jaunty old fashioned classic race style.

Tach Mount

Tach Mount

Norton Dash

Norton Dash

Did I mention I found a head and rocker assembly? No! well I have, they both need a little work, as is the way of buying parts no one else wants :laugh but fixing aint so hard if you know what to do and where to go.

First thing is to get it all clean, to see what needs fixin, so a trip over Easter to the vapour blaster soon had something I could work with. First was the rocker cover, this had a broken stud hole, and a hole through the box, looks like someone got a bit too keen with a vice while doing something, and cracked the cover. So a trip to my local alloy welder soon had it all back good as new, and for no charge too

Next is to send the head away to have valve guides and valves fitted, I may even have it ported too, I also need to open it up to accept a 500 barrel, as this head is from a late model 350. All good fun.

Here they are sitting on the bike, I just need to find a barrel now, an alloy competition barrel would be nice, but any 500 barrel would be great if I can find one.

 

Head and rockerbox

Head and rockerbox

 

My next job is to convert this old damaged Triumph conical hub into a Manx style single leading shoe race style hub, and although it won’t be correct in every detail, it will be close enough to give the look I am after.

Conical Hub

Conical Hub

First job is to remove all the fins from the outer edge, luckily this one was already damaged in this area, this may have helped in me getting it cheaply off of eBay, Then it will be away to be powder coated black, before I start to convert a Norton brake plate to fit.

My hub now stripped of the vanes, was today tidied up on a lathe ready for the next part of the operation, this is to have made and installed a set of cooling
fins just like you would have on a manx or inter, but it is not as easy as that, as you will see.
The first problem that you have to overcome, is leaving room to insert the spokes, and to make it look somewhere near “right” you will need at least two fins, but you only have 16mm to play with on the hub. So let’s see what I am talking about…

Well first we need to go and find some bikes, that have the correct hubs fitted, now that may be a little tricky in your neck of the woods, but for me, I just pop up the road….

Garden Gate Inter

Garden Gate Inter

International

International

So here is am International hub, as fitted to the Garden gate Inter above… Three fins, tapered hub, and crossover spoke pattern, I can’t afford one of these, even in the rare chance of one ever coming up for sale.

Inter Hub

Inter Hub

And here is the Inter brake plate, single leading shoe, small air scoop, just the look I am after, but I will have to make my own, out of a standard Norton SLS brake plate.

SLS Brake Plate

SLS Brake Plate

More Later…

I picked up a couple of bits for the Norton on Saturday at the Kempton bike jumble, one of the parts was the front fork brace and mudguard support, I found
it in a box of old junk, and it cost me just £2.00 or $3.00 for the colonials out there.

So today I thought I should just check to see how it all fits together, this is not the wheel I will be using, as that is yet to be built, but it is a 21″ wheel so is right for testing.

 

Dry Fit

Dry Fit

 

New Handle bars

New Handle bars

 

My next job is to convert this old damaged Triumph conical hub into a Manx style single leading shoe race hub, and although it won’t be correct in every detail,
it will be close enough to give the look I am after.

 

Conical Hub

Conical Hub

 

 

First job is to remove all the fins from the outer edge, luckily this one was already damaged in this area, this may have helped in me getting it cheaply off of the Bay..

 

Broken Fin, A good thing.

Broken Fin, A good thing.

Then it will be away to be powder coated black, before I start to convert a Norton brake plate to fit…

 

 

Freshly Minted…

Posted: February 16, 2013 in Just Me
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I love to see what friends have been up to over the winter months, fettling away in the garage, sweating, cursing, spilling blood, just so they can ride something new or old for the coming summer. Well today was one of those days, I took some pictures a while back of this Manx/Inter engine on the bench..

Norton Cafe Racer

Norton Cafe Racer

There it was all in bits, being worked on, and now here it is all complete, and on the road, and it sounds awesome. Sure it has a few small leaks, the odd screw loose or missing, but these shake down runs will sort all those little niggles out. And who wouldn’t like this in the garage.

Cafe Racer

Cafe Racer

Norton Inter/Manx

Norton Inter/Manx

Just a cool bike, well built.